HawkeyeSolo had added something on Resident Evil page, but why did you removed it, Hawkeye told me on my message board.
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So here's a question
I removed the things he added to re6 page; cause they arent fitting to bad qualities section due to being not fitting or unnecessary repeating. Normally ı dont remove things that are being added to pages but sometimes he unnecessarily messes up the re6 page. He did this so many times in the past.
I added legit problems to the game like the lack of resources especially herbs that the barely gives you which is noticeable when compared to RE4. How you can run past a good chunk of the game, which I just did. I literally did that many times in Leon's campaign just yesterday and I have more ammo because of it. The first part of Leon's campaign that no one likes because you just follow this random guy for five minutes. The horror elements that are not scary, what horror there is anyway. I even put how it can be hassell to get a combo in Mercenaries since it is tied to melee attacks and you have a stamina bar. Have I been extreme in putting in some reasons in the past? Absolutely. But these are legit problems with the game that makes it unfun. Not to mention the stiff driving. Also, changing the FOV is not a good quality and the story is not as interesting like RE2 or the original.
Sorry but we discussed this in the past.
" How you can run past a good chunk of the game, which I just did. "
You wont be able to get the loot dropped from monsters if you do that. Besides you can also run past monsters in re4 and re5 and if you do that; you wont be able to get the loot dropped from them either.
" The horror elements that are not scary, what horror there is anyway. "
Horror doesnt always mean scary not to mention what's scary or not is subjective. The reason why the horror in re6 isnt as effective as other main re games is cause the characters you're playing are very professional against handling monsters plus one of the reasons to up the action to increase the stakes. If you want more tension; you can always up the difficulty.
" I even put how it can be hassell to get a combo in Mercenaries since it is tied to melee attacks and you have a stamina bar. "
There are ways to quickly recover stamina. Plus the game punishing you for going with inferior tactics isnt a bad thing. Oh and the melee kills in re5's mercenaries also increase the timer.
" Also, changing the FOV is not a good quality and the story is not as interesting like RE2 or the original. "
It's a good quality cause it's something you cant do in re4 and re5; one of the improvements compared to those 2 games. ( Re6 is better than re4 and re5 imo. I've played those games constantly over the years and despite its flaws; ı still feel like it's improved from those games in many ways. Gotta say ı love re4 but ı think it's a bit overrated. It's not a masterpiece and it has its flaws just like any game in the series. )
" Story "
It has one of the best stories in the series and one of the best character performances in the franchise. There's a lot of effort put into this game and the story is pretty good. Most of the complaints ı've seen against it can be explained by checking the files or with common sense.
" unfun "
Just cause you dont like something doesnt mean it's bad.
Sorry buddy but just cause you dont like this game doesnt mean you should constantly mess the page. I dont like re7 for example ( Worst mainline entry imo but it has its charms. ) but ı dont go and unnecessarily mess the page.
Like ı said to you for another uncountable amount of time; ignore the game and edit something else.
I've put so many hours into this game so ı know what ı'm talking about.
Oh and btw; ı've added one more con along with one pro since the things you're adding arent really bad qualities.
As for the video you added recently; ı think it's fitting to the page but he makes one mistake. He says " The game is a failure. " or something like that even though according to capcom; it's a success despite missing the sale target. I've put a source here; search my user talk page just in case you forgot what it is.
It took seven years to hit the sales number that Capcom wanted it to. So, technically, yes it is a failure.
Missing the sale target doesnt equal to failure. If we go with that logic; then re5 and re7 are also failures. Especially re7 which also missed the sale targets. Also that video doesnt include some ports. Like pc for example. Plus he includes some subjective statements like " Weapons have low impact. " even though the impact is pretty good for the weapons. ( Better than re5 and rerev imo. And way better than reorc's weapons. )
Besides according to capcom; the game is a success.
Running through the game actually SAVED me resources.
I was talking about monsters dropping loots like skill points which go to your collection. The amount you can collect is PRETTY HIGH.
Besides; you can also " save resources " by killing monsters with melee without expending bullet.
For example; quickshot + slide + back finisher / coup de grace. If the drop is ammo; congrats you kinda save resources. You can also try counters which are high risk high reward.
The reason why ı mentioned " Weapons have low impact. " btw is the what happened video for re6 was supposed to be about the game's development and its history. That statement about weapons doesnt feel fitting and feels more like he's trying to force his opinions as facts.
Granted; ı dont watch most of those, ı only watched the re6 one so ıdk if he mentions subjective statements in other what happened videos but regardless some of the parts in that video is incorrect and ı wanted to mention them here.
Resident Evil 6
I just Googled it and Capcom does in fact consider RE 6 as a failure.
"From a business perspective, Resident Evil 6 was a success," acknowledges Kawata...
Also in the making of re7 videos, re6 is described as " good game that has many fans. " .
Admittedly, I have not played the game myself, but I have seen a good chunck of the game and it seems very screwy. It's mostly the reason why I haven't touched the RE 6 page. I will say that it doesn't seem like the worst Resident Evil game, but I certainly wouldn't say it seems like one of the better ones.
I think even with some of negative reviews the game got, it's still one of the better ones. Its gamefaqs review score and the amount of positive reviews being higher than negative ones when looked to metacritic also made me want to put it here ( steam reviews also show the game's review status along with rerev2 as " Mostly positive " . ) , especially when considering re4 and re5 ( Which are just like re6, are more action than horror although their action isnt as high as re6. ) are also here anyways.
Out of curiosity, but did you play re4 and re5, also did you play any of the spinoffs? Did you like re4 and re5's heavy action status? If you did, ı can recommend re6. The game also has a lot of gameplay mechanics like dodging, sliding etc. that can help in gameplay along with being able to disable some of the qtes through the options menu. Honestly ı really wouldnt describe re6 as " bad " , ı think it's ok at worst case scenario. I would use the " bad " statement for reorc and umbrella corps.
Edit: Btw ı only played re6 on pc using just like most of the re games out there. ( I'm using emulator to play some of them on pc btw. ) Honestly ı think you should play re6 on pc if you wanna pick it up.
Why did you reverse it? Those are actual problems.
I reversed them cause they arent actual problems, they are your nitpicks that dont really make sense and therefore are false instead.
" The puzzles are very easy. "
Most puzzles in re games are easy.
" The game doesn't really take a whole lot of time to develop any of the new characters. "
That's not true. Jake for example. He goes from someone who only cares about money to someone who cares about world while taking care of sherry more carefully. Plus there are the unlockable files ( see project umbrella site. ) that give even more info.
" The last fight between Jake and Sherry with Ustanak is a fist fight, which looks really dumb. "
The negative qualities already contain " It focuses more on action than horror. " and " It's too over the top. " cons, no need to separately add another one.
" The dialogue audio quality for the J'avo is pretty bad. "
No, it's fine. They are decently speaking serbian and chinese languages.
" Some boss fights go on for way too long. "
The boss fights are fine and have decent pacing.
" Poor driving controls. "
No, controls ( including vehicle sections ) are good in re6. Plus there's already a con about vehicle sections in negative qualities section which is there's too much of them.
" The story is not very well written. " " Along with that, the whole reason the epicdemic with the C-virus even got started is because Ada wouldn't go into a romantic relationship with Simmons. " " Simmons is a really generic "I want to destroy the world for no reason" antagonist. "
No; story is pretty nice written in re6 along with campaigns that connect to each other very well. The motivations you mentioned for the villains are fine for the franchise as well, remember resident evil is a crazy franchise. Lastly carla is the one who wants to destroy the world, not simmons. They arent generic neither; the backstories for them in the files connect well to past re titles.
" The depth of field is pretty bad. "
It's fine; no issues from this.
" The inventory is not well constructed as you have to cycle through each item in order to get which item or weapon you want. On top of that, the game doesn't pause when accessing inventory, which would make since when online, but this happens even when the game is offline. "
Weapon / item cycling happens pretty fast in re6; shortcuts for items arent really required. Plus you can change your available weapons' placements in your inventory. While in inventory, go to weapons menu and you should see a move command. You can change weapon positions that way. Game not pausing while browsing inventory is simply not a bad quality. Plus re6 ( like re5 ) is built around with coop so that's another reason why game doesnt pause.
Inventory not pausing is because I keep getting screwed when I open the inventory to craft herbs.
I actually just found the FOV, turns out it has to be in the main menu because God knows why.
Simmons is pretty forgettable and not really interesting.
The story never really builds up to anything and isn't as interesting or mysterious like that of the original Resident Evil.
The vehicle controls feel stiff and the car looks like it's moving on ice.
The audio quality for J'avo sounds like something out of an old Chinese movie.
The fist fight deserves to be because how dumb it looks, can you tell me how dumb it would look for someone like Leon to fist fight Mr. X?
The scarcity of ammo and herbs doesn't work for this kind of game. Not as scarce as previous titles, but still.
The puzzles aren't very thought provoking. Take the example of the paper weight puzzle from Veronica. That's a pretty neat puzzle.
" Inventory not pausing is because I keep getting screwed when I open the inventory to craft herbs. "
There's a special button for adding herbs into your tablet instantly. For example, if you have one green and one red herb; it will automatically combine them and add it to your storage. It's even listed in the options menu.
" I meant the FOV is too close to the point to where the character's ass is right in your face when they're crawling and you can't change it on console. "
You can modify the fov through options menu in your ps4 and the vent sections arent common. You cant change the fov through the options menu while playing a chapter however. Only when you are in the starting menu.
" Simmons is pretty forgettable and not really interesting. "
No ı disagree, he's ( along with carla ) an interesting villain; especially if you read the files. ( Read the files in project umbrella site. ) Imo; he's more interesting than los illuminados, revelations' villains as well as re7's villains. He's also more interesting than spinoff games' villains. Also you might need to play other re games even though simmons 1st appears in re6.
" The story never really builds up to anything and isn't as interesting or mysterious like that of the original Resident Evil. "
That's not true, the story builds up quite well; especially in chris' and jake's campaigns. And it's definitely quite mysterious despite being very actiony. ( I think it's more mysterious than the 1st game plus the villains arent wearing sunglasses at night. Dont add this as a bad quality to re1 and remake pages though. )
" The vehicle controls feel stiff and the car looks like it's moving on ice. "
Never played the game with a controller but the controls are fine on pc with keyboard and mouse. The vehicle animations are fine too, ı dont know what you are talking about.
" The audio quality for J'avo sounds like something out of an old Chinese movie. "
Some j'avos are chinese and they talk like chinese. Never watched a chinese movie though and ı dont get your complaint, the audio is fine.
" The fist fight deserves to be because how dumb it looks, can you tell me how dumb it would look for someone like Leon to fist fight Mr. X? "
Jake isnt an rookie cop like leon was during re2. Also you should read the files through project umbrella site.
" The scarcity of ammo and herbs doesn't work for this kind of game. Not as scarce as previous titles, but still. "
It does, it wants you to focus more on melee and dodging instead of playing the game like a cover shooter without even trying melee. Also one of the skills causes enemies to drop more ammo and herbs instead of skill points.
" The puzzles aren't very thought provoking. Take the example of the paper weight puzzle from Veronica. That's a pretty neat puzzle. "
I agree with your given example but still; most puzzles in re games are easy.
I used the skill for more item drops, it barely helped. Why would it be based around melee when it gives you all those guns? That doesn't make any sense.
I know Jake knows hand-to-hand combat and is more experienced, I get that, but STILL. I don't think Leon being a rookie and Jake not has anything to do with how dumb that scenario is and looks.
The puzzles are still pretty weak. What do you consider a hard puzzle in a game?
" I used the skill for more item drops, it barely helped. Why would it be based around melee when it gives you all those guns? That doesn't make any sense. "
Which difficulty were you playing on? On normal, if you used both your firearms and melee in a balanced way; then you shouldnt run out of ammo most of the time.
" I know Jake knows hand-to-hand combat and is more experienced, I get that, but STILL. I don't think Leon being a rookie and Jake not has anything to do with how dumb that scenario is and looks. "
While it's an over the top scene, there are more factors into jake's favor and at the very least, it's a more plausible scene than recv's intro imo. Also you might need to play re5 to understand more about this.
" The puzzles are still pretty weak. What do you consider a hard puzzle in a game? "
I remember struggling during ada's campaign's 1st puzzle when ı was 1st playing the game in 2013. That and one of the puzzles in her 2nd chapter. ( Re6 was also my 1st re game. )
Also ı'm going to edit the page to delete the " Despite the fact that you can change the FOV, you can only do so in the main menu. " part you added. The reason for this is cause after finishing the prologue, you have the option to go to options menu in order to change the fov. Besides; why would you want to change fov constantly anyways while playing a chapter? I mean you really need to change the fov settings once, by increasing all numbers to max. After that, you dont need to change anything again.
You need to see how the FOV looks in game so you can adjust it.
How did you struggle with the first puzzle?
Veronica's intro is very action, but it's nowhere as stupid as the Jake vs Ustanak.
You dont need to.
It's been a while, ı dont remember how ı struggled.
Even if you think that scene is " stupid " ; there's no need to add it cause the bad qualities section already contains the " It's too over the top with a lot of jumping the shark moments. " con.
When was the last time you played RE 6?
Last time ı played re6 was weeks ago.
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